just wanna bring up some thoughts to share (fecal bb suffer)
Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 9:12 pm
k, i hav been browsing this site for couple years now (yea, i know, my account status doesnt look like, but i m not like those 'newbie' you hav seen). anyhow, now i just wanna share some of my opinions about the root of chronic bad breath.
here is my personal history and experience:
gender: male
age: 27
years of suffering bb: probably since 10 yrs old when I remember receiving 1st comment about my fecal breath (maybe even younger), cant recall, but it definitely began before 11 yrs old.
smell: fecal, usually have comments that my breath smells like cat's feces ( most of the time i cant smell it, but in some condition, such as under extremely cold weather I m able to smell my own breath).
Magnitude of BB: 9 out of 10 (10 is the strongest), people can smell my breath 3 meters away.
health history: healthy, except the fact that I was diagnosed with infection of Hepatitis Viruses when I was 5 or 6 or 7. And I got healed after months from treatments. And when I was 12, I also had dental braces treatment, which 8 of my teeth were taken away, including 4 wisdom teeth for the top and the bottom (but I dun think having dental braces has anything to do with my breath, since I received bb comments b4). My test for pylori said I m not infected with that disease. Tonsillectomy is done but not help.
My own opinion about the root of bb (this is only my own opinions based on my conditions, by no mean to offend anyone's ideas/thoughts):
1) I dun think my chronic bb's root is from the mouth:
Bushing doesn't help, Flossing doesn't help, and Listerine Mouthwash (which is supposed to killed all/most bacteria) doesn't help, Tongue Scraping helps very very little.
2) Nasal odor is as strong as mouth breath (I dun have PND). Please correct me if I am wrong: some people mentioned here that if a person has nasal odor w/o PND, this person's chronic bb might not be originated from the mouth but might be deep down his throat, since nasal passage doesnt directly connect to the mouth.
3) Internal organs might be contributed to bb: w/ empty stomach, I have very strong bb (i notice very strong sense, but for me it's not smelly); when eat, strong sense reduces a little. My conclusion is that when our body is digesting/absorbing, functions of some organ might directly or indirectly help to reduce/interfere bb's condition. Unfortunately, I dun know what that organ is. But I am doubting about the Liver since I had heath history with it b4, and one time a doctor suggested me to do a blood-DNA test for the volume of Hepatitis Viruses which I didnt do.
4) personal experiences with other chronic suffers:
So far, I have met 3 other chronic bb suffers (not that they told me, but I can tell I have the same bb as theirs. The bad breath from bad oral hygiene is very different from chronic bb, i think.) , and these 3 ppl are all from my own town which RELATIVELY has high percentage of ppl getting infected with Hepatitis Viruses.
5) Factors worsen BB:
Gum, any types of soup, soft drink, caffeine products, sweeten products. My conclusion: saliva, not like that most people have, might not be able to break down some particles of food, which eventually help bad bacteria grows on my throat/tongue/mouth.
Conclusion: chronic fecal bb 24/7 non-stop, maybe bcuz of infected/damaging or abnormal organs in the body but not the mouth (again, it's my opinion based on my own conditions, by no means to disagree with others).
Your comments are appreciated, especially from those having chronic fecal bad breath (I wonder if you guys have health history about internal organs.).
bpatient
here is my personal history and experience:
gender: male
age: 27
years of suffering bb: probably since 10 yrs old when I remember receiving 1st comment about my fecal breath (maybe even younger), cant recall, but it definitely began before 11 yrs old.
smell: fecal, usually have comments that my breath smells like cat's feces ( most of the time i cant smell it, but in some condition, such as under extremely cold weather I m able to smell my own breath).
Magnitude of BB: 9 out of 10 (10 is the strongest), people can smell my breath 3 meters away.
health history: healthy, except the fact that I was diagnosed with infection of Hepatitis Viruses when I was 5 or 6 or 7. And I got healed after months from treatments. And when I was 12, I also had dental braces treatment, which 8 of my teeth were taken away, including 4 wisdom teeth for the top and the bottom (but I dun think having dental braces has anything to do with my breath, since I received bb comments b4). My test for pylori said I m not infected with that disease. Tonsillectomy is done but not help.
My own opinion about the root of bb (this is only my own opinions based on my conditions, by no mean to offend anyone's ideas/thoughts):
1) I dun think my chronic bb's root is from the mouth:
Bushing doesn't help, Flossing doesn't help, and Listerine Mouthwash (which is supposed to killed all/most bacteria) doesn't help, Tongue Scraping helps very very little.
2) Nasal odor is as strong as mouth breath (I dun have PND). Please correct me if I am wrong: some people mentioned here that if a person has nasal odor w/o PND, this person's chronic bb might not be originated from the mouth but might be deep down his throat, since nasal passage doesnt directly connect to the mouth.
3) Internal organs might be contributed to bb: w/ empty stomach, I have very strong bb (i notice very strong sense, but for me it's not smelly); when eat, strong sense reduces a little. My conclusion is that when our body is digesting/absorbing, functions of some organ might directly or indirectly help to reduce/interfere bb's condition. Unfortunately, I dun know what that organ is. But I am doubting about the Liver since I had heath history with it b4, and one time a doctor suggested me to do a blood-DNA test for the volume of Hepatitis Viruses which I didnt do.
4) personal experiences with other chronic suffers:
So far, I have met 3 other chronic bb suffers (not that they told me, but I can tell I have the same bb as theirs. The bad breath from bad oral hygiene is very different from chronic bb, i think.) , and these 3 ppl are all from my own town which RELATIVELY has high percentage of ppl getting infected with Hepatitis Viruses.
5) Factors worsen BB:
Gum, any types of soup, soft drink, caffeine products, sweeten products. My conclusion: saliva, not like that most people have, might not be able to break down some particles of food, which eventually help bad bacteria grows on my throat/tongue/mouth.
Conclusion: chronic fecal bb 24/7 non-stop, maybe bcuz of infected/damaging or abnormal organs in the body but not the mouth (again, it's my opinion based on my own conditions, by no means to disagree with others).
Your comments are appreciated, especially from those having chronic fecal bad breath (I wonder if you guys have health history about internal organs.).
bpatient
. After I do that my fecal breath is reduced by a lot!!, and if I dont eat at all I can keep it low, although after 5 - 7 hours I start getting hunger BB combine with the reduced fecal bb, wich is bad, but still better than when there's food in my stomach or intestines. Maybe as I'm eating my breath is less but ceartenly 5 minutes after eating I can stink a room with septic tank smell in seconds.
bile reflux (in ur case I think it could be bile reflux), 