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Should Causes of Halitosis be Grouped?

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Should Causes of Halitosis be Grouped?

Post by Phantasist »

Aydin Murat has given us 5 types of halitosis, but it seems to me that there should be three main groups.

Group 1 (RARE) Mouth odor due to sinus infection, infected teeth or infected tonsils. These causes should be easily diagnosed because they are obvious. For instance, if your partially erupted wisdom tooth is causing the problem, pulling out the tooth should eliminate the odor.

Group 2 (RARE) These are causes that stem from the stomach, esophagus, intestines or lungs. These conditions would take a little more work to diagnose and cure, but if you find the right doctor a cure should be possible.

Group 3 (MOST COMMON) An overgrowth of anaerobic bacteria in the mouth, especially on the tounge. Impossible to cure since the underlying cause is not known. It might be controlled temporarily through the application of antibacterial substances.


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Post by danger »

about type 3: would you have this from birth or, at the very least, from when you were a child? or is it something that could just develop? i used to think this might have been my problem but the fact i only started getting bad breath well into my 20s always put a doubt in my mind
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Post by bacchus »

Type 1 tonsils seems to occur during or at the onset of puberty in most people. The tonsils dont need to be infected to produce stones, they just need to be particulary inclined to do it.

Type 3 appears to be random in its appearance, its definatley some product of lifestyle or hormonal changes and may be transmissable.
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Grouped Causes of BB

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Grouping causes is a great idea. Is anyone searching out the common denominators in these stories of our shared challenge? I had my tonsils out when I was 9, and that's when the problem started, so much for the tonsil theory in my case. I successfully used Chlorine Dioxide about ten years ago in my early fifties. However, the side effects of precancerous lesions made me realize how hopeless my case was. What a scare that was. How about something unrelated? How about Hemorrhoids as a cause? Does anyone here have hemorrhoids? Am I Grasping at straws?
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Post by Phantasist »

iGargle,
If you have ruled out the causes in Groups 1 and 2, then it can reasonably be assumed that you fall into Group 3.
I don't think that you could get any doctor to agree that hemorrhoides are the cause of bad breath.
Since you state that you have successfully used Chlorine Dioxide ten years ago, it is likely that you have an overgrowth of anaerobic bacteria in your mouth. The Chlorine Dioxide would have diminished the bacteria and brought about an improvement, however, if it is not safe, then don't use it. You may be able to find a safe antibacterial mouthwash that may help, but since the underlying cause of why you have an overgrowth in the first place is not known, there is probably no actual cure.
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Post by Phantasist »

Danger,
I would think that the cause in Group 3 would have to start fairly early in life, but it may be that most people don't become aware of the problem until their teen years.
Since you did not have BB until well into your twenties, maybe your cause does not fall into Group 3? Have you ruled out Groups 1 and 2?
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Post by angst-ridden »

I would have to agree that type 3 halitosis occurs early in life. I started having mild bb when i was 16, then it became obvious and full blown when i turned 18, and its getting worse as time goes by. The only change that i made to my mouth back when i was 16 was i used plax. I dunno if that mouthwash started the whole bacterial imbalance in my mouth.
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Post by Hooch »

Aydimur said in an earlier post that bb due to bacteria on tongue dorsum was the easiest to cure????
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Post by Phantasist »

Hooch,
It would be fairly easy to cure if the reason for the bacteria on the tongue is known (such as infected tonsils, post-nasal drip, etc.), but if none of those causes are in evidence and there is still an overgrowth of anaerobic bacteria, there must be some underlying cause which is not known. And if the cause is not known, how could you cure it?
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Post by Hooch »

You're right Phantasist....I just got my hopes up that all tongue based could be cured...that we could all be cured after what Aydimur said.... :)
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