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Success: my BB problem solved discovered root cause
Re: Success: my BB problem solved discovered root cause
My self-confidence is restored each morning after using this plain-water, hydro-brushing step, described in the original post of this thread.
I’ve been using this method about 3 years. I'm no longer searching for other alternatives to eliminate BB.
It is without question, the most effective method of minimizing the population of oral BB microorganisms, that accumulate overnight, as it dislodges and flushes them from my mouth during this once-daily, safe, inexpensive, effective, pleasant 2 minute step.
The beneficial effect lasts all day.
I’ve been using this method about 3 years. I'm no longer searching for other alternatives to eliminate BB.
It is without question, the most effective method of minimizing the population of oral BB microorganisms, that accumulate overnight, as it dislodges and flushes them from my mouth during this once-daily, safe, inexpensive, effective, pleasant 2 minute step.
The beneficial effect lasts all day.
Re: Success: my BB problem solved discovered root cause
Hello,
Once in the morning, every day, for the past 3 years, I use this Hydro Brushing device and eliminate my BB for the entire day.
I follow the technique listed in the initial post of this thread.
It produces excellent results. It is safe, fast, reliably-effective, uses plain tap water, is chemical free, easy to use, and inexpensive. I eat all types of food. I use no medications. I use no other special methods other than Hydro Brushing with this device after I first use an ordinary toothbrush with ordinary toothpaste followed by dental flossing.
The teaming, sticky, i.e., highly adhesive, rapidly-multiplying microorganisms that establish themselves overnight in the anaerobic pockets of my mouth, are dislodged and flushed out during the 2 minutes of Hydro-Brushing all my oral surfaces.
The key is the large quantity of flowing tap water with simultaneous brushing which loosens all sticky bacteria and flushes them out of my mouth, especially the tongue top surface, with no opportunity for them to reattached elsewhere in my mouth.
My BB could rival many on this site. Now, my search for managing my BB is over. I’ve found the solution for my former problem.
Once in the morning, every day, for the past 3 years, I use this Hydro Brushing device and eliminate my BB for the entire day.
I follow the technique listed in the initial post of this thread.
It produces excellent results. It is safe, fast, reliably-effective, uses plain tap water, is chemical free, easy to use, and inexpensive. I eat all types of food. I use no medications. I use no other special methods other than Hydro Brushing with this device after I first use an ordinary toothbrush with ordinary toothpaste followed by dental flossing.
The teaming, sticky, i.e., highly adhesive, rapidly-multiplying microorganisms that establish themselves overnight in the anaerobic pockets of my mouth, are dislodged and flushed out during the 2 minutes of Hydro-Brushing all my oral surfaces.
The key is the large quantity of flowing tap water with simultaneous brushing which loosens all sticky bacteria and flushes them out of my mouth, especially the tongue top surface, with no opportunity for them to reattached elsewhere in my mouth.
My BB could rival many on this site. Now, my search for managing my BB is over. I’ve found the solution for my former problem.
Re: Success: my BB problem solved discovered root cause
Hello,
This method continues to rid me of BB each morning and lasts throughout the day.
I've stayed with it 3.5 years so far.
This method continues to rid me of BB each morning and lasts throughout the day.
I've stayed with it 3.5 years so far.
Re: Success: my BB problem solved discovered root cause
Iam happy for you searching
i wish you well
But it never worked for me,i find that if i touch the tongue with anything it increases coughing and sneezing
I believe this root cause if from the gut biome which for me was modified by penacilin in my early years,i notice everytime i have antibiotics the breath odor increases,i had some last year for a covid related chest infection and it yes it certainly did increase,
So i want to get some tests done and see whats going on downstairs first
Good luck and a Merry Christmas friends

But it never worked for me,i find that if i touch the tongue with anything it increases coughing and sneezing
I believe this root cause if from the gut biome which for me was modified by penacilin in my early years,i notice everytime i have antibiotics the breath odor increases,i had some last year for a covid related chest infection and it yes it certainly did increase,
So i want to get some tests done and see whats going on downstairs first
Good luck and a Merry Christmas friends
Re: Success: my BB problem solved discovered root cause
This method continues to work very well for me.
I use it daily, for years.
My search has ended as I have an effective way of practicing oral hygiene, fast, at low cost, and chemical free.
I have a wide-ranging diet composed of all food and drink.
I use it daily, for years.
My search has ended as I have an effective way of practicing oral hygiene, fast, at low cost, and chemical free.
I have a wide-ranging diet composed of all food and drink.
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Re: Success: my BB problem solved discovered root cause
can i talk to you in chat?
how does the brush atachement work? is the water spraying through the brush? also is water pik attachment hars on gums?
how does the brush atachement work? is the water spraying through the brush? also is water pik attachment hars on gums?
This is me, Jimi Stein, I created this site in December 2005. Welcome. Get my ebook here https://www.badbreathhalitosis.com/ebook/
Re: Success: my BB problem solved discovered root cause
This toothbrush + water spray is not harsh on gums.
The water flow is a steady stream, it does not pulsate like a WaterPik.
You can adjust the water temperature most comfortable for you.
The toothbrush + water spray works by sending water flow from the toothbrush area outward as seen in the picture below.
The combination of brushing all areas of teeth, gums, tongue top surface, and cheeks, with constant water flow, of about 1 liter/minute, for as many minutes as you need, prevents sticky BB bacteria and biofilm from reattaching.
So the BB bacteria are loosened and flushed out of your mouth; and, the source of BB is removed once daily.
Ordinary tooth brushing, flossing, and rinsing with a few gulps of water leaves billions of BB bacteria and biofilm remaining in your mouth, so BB remains.
During the first minute, when I use this device, the water exiting my mouth, into the sink, is cloudy, really cloudy. That's the loosening and removing of billions of BB bacteria and biofilm that formed overnight and stuck to all surfaces of my mouth. Then, the continued brushing + water flow becomes a clearer, cleaner water flow as the BB bacteria population and biofilm have been removed. BB is then gone for the day.

If a chat will help to better understand this, please let me know.
The water flow is a steady stream, it does not pulsate like a WaterPik.
You can adjust the water temperature most comfortable for you.
The toothbrush + water spray works by sending water flow from the toothbrush area outward as seen in the picture below.
The combination of brushing all areas of teeth, gums, tongue top surface, and cheeks, with constant water flow, of about 1 liter/minute, for as many minutes as you need, prevents sticky BB bacteria and biofilm from reattaching.
So the BB bacteria are loosened and flushed out of your mouth; and, the source of BB is removed once daily.
Ordinary tooth brushing, flossing, and rinsing with a few gulps of water leaves billions of BB bacteria and biofilm remaining in your mouth, so BB remains.
During the first minute, when I use this device, the water exiting my mouth, into the sink, is cloudy, really cloudy. That's the loosening and removing of billions of BB bacteria and biofilm that formed overnight and stuck to all surfaces of my mouth. Then, the continued brushing + water flow becomes a clearer, cleaner water flow as the BB bacteria population and biofilm have been removed. BB is then gone for the day.
If a chat will help to better understand this, please let me know.
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Re: Success: my BB problem solved discovered root cause
this looks like a great idea...i will buy one
did you have strong bad breath? room filler?
did you have strong bad breath? room filler?
This is me, Jimi Stein, I created this site in December 2005. Welcome. Get my ebook here https://www.badbreathhalitosis.com/ebook/
Re: Success: my BB problem solved discovered root cause
What Worked (Finally)
I stumbled across a medical paper discussing how oral mucosal biofilm contributes to halitosis. Researchers used a prototype micro-mist spray device to remove this biofilm.
https://bmcoralhealth.biomedcentral.com ... 21-01647-4
Since I already had a WaterPik (water flosser), I decided to replicate this method manually. Previously, I had only used it on my gumline, as instructed. This time, I extended irrigation to all surfaces of the mouth—gums, cheeks, mucosa, tongue, under the tongue, between lips and gums—essentially everywhere except the back of the throat.
Full Routine
1. Brush teeth (2 minutes)
2. Scrape tongue
3. WaterPik irrigation:
• Use two full tanks (22 oz / 621 ml each)
• Pressure level: 5 (moderate)
• Keep mouth open, let water flow out (don’t hold it)
• Do this twice a day, especially before bed and in the morning
• First tank: Gumline, gums, cheeks, inner lips, mucosa
• Second tank: Palate, tongue, under tongue, tonsil area
•
Avoid spraying the back of the throat – very painful
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Results
• Noticeable improvement in 3 days
• Zero symptoms for 4 weeks now
• Diet: No restrictions, even drinking coffee (which used to worsen it)
• Other benefits: Bad taste in mouth gone; significant improvement in dry eczema/psoriasis on hands
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Why I Think It Works
This is just my personal opinion: Bacteria aren’t only on teeth—they live all over the mouth. The WaterPik acts like a pressure washer to dislodge biofilm from the entire oral cavity, not just the gumline. This might explain why it’s so effective where other treatments failed.
I stumbled across a medical paper discussing how oral mucosal biofilm contributes to halitosis. Researchers used a prototype micro-mist spray device to remove this biofilm.
https://bmcoralhealth.biomedcentral.com ... 21-01647-4
Since I already had a WaterPik (water flosser), I decided to replicate this method manually. Previously, I had only used it on my gumline, as instructed. This time, I extended irrigation to all surfaces of the mouth—gums, cheeks, mucosa, tongue, under the tongue, between lips and gums—essentially everywhere except the back of the throat.
Full Routine
1. Brush teeth (2 minutes)
2. Scrape tongue
3. WaterPik irrigation:
• Use two full tanks (22 oz / 621 ml each)
• Pressure level: 5 (moderate)
• Keep mouth open, let water flow out (don’t hold it)
• Do this twice a day, especially before bed and in the morning
• First tank: Gumline, gums, cheeks, inner lips, mucosa
• Second tank: Palate, tongue, under tongue, tonsil area
•
⸻
Results
• Noticeable improvement in 3 days
• Zero symptoms for 4 weeks now
• Diet: No restrictions, even drinking coffee (which used to worsen it)
• Other benefits: Bad taste in mouth gone; significant improvement in dry eczema/psoriasis on hands
⸻
Why I Think It Works
This is just my personal opinion: Bacteria aren’t only on teeth—they live all over the mouth. The WaterPik acts like a pressure washer to dislodge biofilm from the entire oral cavity, not just the gumline. This might explain why it’s so effective where other treatments failed.
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Re: Success: my BB problem solved discovered root cause
seems people will get relief if the biofilm is only in mouth, but if it is in throat, it will be hard to clean that
This is me, Jimi Stein, I created this site in December 2005. Welcome. Get my ebook here https://www.badbreathhalitosis.com/ebook/
Re: Success: my BB problem solved discovered root cause
This method keeps working for me, with excellent results.
I use it once, each morning, for the last 5 years and BB is gone for the entire day.
It’s been 3 years since the original post, 02DEC2022.
Safe, effective, fast, cheap, & easy.
Billions of BB bacteria loosened and rapidly flushed out of my mouth & down the drain.
No chemicals, no surgery, no antibiotics, no mouthwash, no self-conciseness.
Results in a clean, fresh, healthy mouth & neutral breath.
I've stopped looking for other methods to manage BB.
Ask yourself: Why not try this?
I use it once, each morning, for the last 5 years and BB is gone for the entire day.
It’s been 3 years since the original post, 02DEC2022.
Safe, effective, fast, cheap, & easy.
Billions of BB bacteria loosened and rapidly flushed out of my mouth & down the drain.
No chemicals, no surgery, no antibiotics, no mouthwash, no self-conciseness.
Results in a clean, fresh, healthy mouth & neutral breath.
I've stopped looking for other methods to manage BB.
Ask yourself: Why not try this?
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Re: Success: my BB problem solved discovered root cause
Enjoy your freedom, bud, i am trying to buy it, but i can't find a store in Europe that would sell them lol, very scarce productsearching wrote: Tue Dec 02, 2025 12:11 pm This method keeps working for me, with excellent results.
I use it once, each morning, for the last 5 years and BB is gone for the entire day.
It’s been 3 years since the original post, 02DEC2022.
Safe, effective, fast, cheap, & easy.
Billions of BB bacteria loosened and rapidly flushed out of my mouth & down the drain.
No chemicals, no surgery, no antibiotics, no mouthwash, no self-conciseness.
Results in a clean, fresh, healthy mouth & neutral breath.
I've stopped looking for other methods to manage BB.
Ask yourself: Why not try this?
This is me, Jimi Stein, I created this site in December 2005. Welcome. Get my ebook here https://www.badbreathhalitosis.com/ebook/
Re: Success: my BB problem solved discovered root cause
Jimi,Jimi Stein wrote: Tue Dec 02, 2025 12:13 pm
Enjoy your freedom, bud, i am trying to buy it, but i can't find a store in Europe that would sell them lol, very scarce product
Does amazon.com ship to your location?
If so, it's called a Water Flosser for Family Use 3 Jet Tips & 3 Toothbrush for Faucet & Shower, Oral Irrigator Non-Electric.
Here's a link to the item.
https://www.amazon.com/Toothbrush-Irrig ... 2D?ie=UTF8
Re: Success: my BB problem solved discovered root cause
Hi theremiao wrote: Tue Dec 06, 2022 3:33 am I want to post a new post but might be I am the new member and cant.
just want to say I solved my BB in recent one month
I just do one thing in addition to my routine ( flossing, brushing)
please use salt water to gargle for 1 to 2 min (just half 1/3 spoon with some warm water and taste quite salty is OK)
it changed my whole life
as I swear I will inform other victims after my improvement hope everyone can try as it is low cost and no side effects
Thank me for the post. I have a bad breath that smells like a sewage. I am trying to fix it. Can you please tell me what bb measure device you have and where did you buy ht from ?
Regarding your bad breath how it smelled like ?
Many thanks
Re: Success: my BB problem solved discovered root cause
The method described in the first post of this thread has worked very well for me for many years.
The HydroBrushing dislodges, and flushes from my mouth, the sticky, deeply-rooted biofilm that contains the BB producing microorganisms
Useful reading about biofilm is seen here: https://biologyinsights.com/what-does-m ... icroscope/
Useful video of a microscopic view of human tongue, biofilm microorganisms is seen here: https://www.tiktok.com/@closeintel/vide ... 0174543146
The HydroBrushing dislodges, and flushes from my mouth, the sticky, deeply-rooted biofilm that contains the BB producing microorganisms
Useful reading about biofilm is seen here: https://biologyinsights.com/what-does-m ... icroscope/
Useful video of a microscopic view of human tongue, biofilm microorganisms is seen here: https://www.tiktok.com/@closeintel/vide ... 0174543146
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